So even someone like me who likes complex mmos with many layers of grinding doesn't like if the grind is too excessive.Д¬onsidering we have a hard cap on skill points in a two tiered system crafting/combat, I do not think we delve into the realm of hideous or anything. So you do have a point I understand what your saying. I thought the mmo I played a long time ago was grindy but once you play a asian mmo its like on another level of grindy so I always tend to avoid asian mmos. A really dangerous echo chamber can evolve from that.ДЄgain, I've no opinion on where you're at on that spectrum, but progression pace is a very real and valid concern.ДЄsian mmos is the very definition of excessive grind(yea I know I'm generalizing). The problem right now is that much of your player feedback is from those interested in early adoption.

There is a balance between easy handouts and monumental grind. Short term it may be refreshing, but long term excessive grind can drag a game and community down. It's one of the things that originally drove me from playing Lineage. I haven't played so I can't comment directly on your game, but it's a good criticism to always keep in mind. Life is Feudal:MMO is more like entering and participating in a world than just playing a game. Many say they have forgotten that feeling because almost all games they have experienced recent just basicallyВ 'give'В you everything for very little effort. Holy shit.Hehe, It does take a lot of work but what we have heard from hundreds and hundreds of players is that they get a huge amount of satisfaction when planning and achieving goals in the game. You don't know grind until you've played LiF. I don't know much about this game, but now that it's moving towards a release of the true MMORPG portion, I'm getting more and more interested in trying it, especially seeing the tough and, in some case, permanent punishment for mindless ganking. I like the numbers for griefers, the 20 to 1 ratio for negative/positive single event.Дevelopers haven't been tough enough on these kinds of punishment in the past, and we've seen it end up as a deathmatch game of sorts instead of a virtual society.Дo you guys use character or skill levels? I'd love to see the system further refined to penalize more heavily gankers that do so to players so far and away unable to properly defend themselves, ganking a single, neutral player using 5-man groups, etc.Д®ssentially, it would be cool if it were workable to take this a step further in the future by making it 'smarter' so to speak by analyzing more about the players than just flags or player associations when it determines an appropriate punishment for gankers.

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